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What do conservatives like JD Vance and tech executives like Elon Musk have in common? They, like other pronatalists, want to “save civilization” by having more American babies. But it wasn’t that long ago that some people wanted to save the world by limiting the number of kids being born. This week on the pod, we explore the surprising way eugenics plays a role in these two seemingly opposite fears.
B A PARKER, HOST:
Hey, everyone. You're listening to CODE SWITCH - the show about race and identity from NPR. I'm B.A. Parker.
GENE DEMBY, HOST:
And I'm Gene Demby. Parker, like, in your wide-ranging social media travels, journeys, have you ever come across this couple, Simone and Malcolm Collins?
PARKER: Oh, yeah. They're, like, this hipster couple. They're white, young-ish or at least (ph) millennial.
DEMBY: Yeah.
PARKER: Very cool glasses. I feel like I've seen their glasses and been like, oh, they're like mine, which - OK.
DEMBY: They have seven kids. And there are countless TikToks about the Collinses. Like people offering up commentary on them and...